Simon Fell > Its just code : Tuesday, April 02, 2002

Simon Fell > Its just code

Tuesday, April 02, 2002

Sam: "Jon Udell: Java may have arrived late to the Web services party.  Grrr.  There are plenty of Java implementations.  Many are very good.  Some have been postively groundbreaking."

Java arrived late? One of the very first SOAP implementations available was written in Java.  While it may take a frustratingly long time for things to filter into the Java specification, that in no way means it doesn't exist.  Java not only arrived at the party on time, but was there an hour early helping to blow up the balloons and spike the punch. [Snell's Blog]

Java (and now .NET as well) suffer from being an overloaded term, in this case Jon was referring to Java the class library / standard, vs a SOAP implementation running on Java. As James points out, SOAP4J (which later became Apache SOAP) was the first significant SOAP toolkit, shipping well before any equivilent offering from Microsoft. And to this day, Java developers have a wider and more mature choice set of offerings for SOAP toolkits than the Microsoft developers.

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